User Name
Password 
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read
Forum Left Top



Bookmarks

Reply Post New Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-27-09, 10:37 PM
Terminator's Avatar
BANNED
 
Join Date: 12-03-05
Location: None of your business
Posts: 16,064
Rep Power: 0
UN official: Enough evidence to prosecute Rumsfeld for war crimes

Monday, the United Nations Special Rapporteur on Torture Manfred Nowak told CNN's Rick Sanchez that the US has an "obligation" to investigate whether Bush administration officials ordered torture, adding that he believes that there is already enough evidence to prosecute former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

"We have clear evidence," he said. "In our report that we sent to the United Nations, we made it clear that former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld clearly authorized torture methods and he was told at that time by Alberto Mora, the legal council of the Navy, 'Mr. Secretary, what you are actual ordering here amounts to torture.' So, there we have the clear evidence that Mr. Rumsfeld knew what he was doing but, nevertheless, he ordered torture."

Asked during an interview with Germany's ZDF television on Jan. 20, Nowak said: "I think the evidence is on the table."

At issue, however, is whether "American law will recognize these forms of torture."

A bipartisan Senate report released last month found Rumsfeld and other top administration officials responsible for abuse of Guantanamo detainees in US custody.

It said Rumsfeld authorized harsh interrogation techniques on December 2, 2002 at the Guantanamo prison, although he ruled them out a month later.

The coercive measures were based on a document signed by Bush in February, 2002.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-27-09, 11:53 PM
pgg's Avatar
pgg pgg is online now
boy toy
 
Verified LEO
Site Moderator
Join Date: 06-16-08
Location: Fled the Emerald Triangle
Posts: 8,883
Rep Power: 2673069
I wonder if Obama is going to offer everyone in the former Administration to the UN? I hope not.
__________________
'Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a
delusional, illogical liberal minority, and rabidly
promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
holds forth the proposition that it is entirely
possible to pick up a turd by the clean end!'

“A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.” Sigmund Freud
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-28-09, 12:16 AM
MacLean's Avatar
O/R Gun mod
 
Verified LEO
Super Moderator
Join Date: 09-05-07
Location: Washington State
Posts: 11,383
Rep Power: 4161221
I suggest if the UN wants to try an American citizen, we say....

"Come and get them."
__________________
I'm your huckleberry...

Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentus telum est!

You can be the weapon, and the gun in your hand is a tool - or the gun is a weapon and you are the tool.


I was looking for a saint who was a devil of a lover,
but every girl I found was either one way or the other...


Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-28-09, 12:17 AM
pgg's Avatar
pgg pgg is online now
boy toy
 
Verified LEO
Site Moderator
Join Date: 06-16-08
Location: Fled the Emerald Triangle
Posts: 8,883
Rep Power: 2673069
Quote:
Originally Posted by maclean View Post
I suggest if the UN wants to try an American citizen, we say....

"Come and get them."
Thats what I would prefer also. Unfortuately I think this president will be all to happy to hand people over
__________________
'Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a
delusional, illogical liberal minority, and rabidly
promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
holds forth the proposition that it is entirely
possible to pick up a turd by the clean end!'

“A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.” Sigmund Freud
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-28-09, 12:25 AM
MacLean's Avatar
O/R Gun mod
 
Verified LEO
Super Moderator
Join Date: 09-05-07
Location: Washington State
Posts: 11,383
Rep Power: 4161221
Quote:
Originally Posted by pgg View Post
Thats what I would prefer also. Unfortuately I think this president will be all to happy to hand people over
In which case, those of us who care need to be vigilant and watchful, and prepared to act.
__________________
I'm your huckleberry...

Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentus telum est!

You can be the weapon, and the gun in your hand is a tool - or the gun is a weapon and you are the tool.


I was looking for a saint who was a devil of a lover,
but every girl I found was either one way or the other...


Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-28-09, 12:30 AM
pgg's Avatar
pgg pgg is online now
boy toy
 
Verified LEO
Site Moderator
Join Date: 06-16-08
Location: Fled the Emerald Triangle
Posts: 8,883
Rep Power: 2673069
You have to watch for me, I operating the reloader
__________________
'Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a
delusional, illogical liberal minority, and rabidly
promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
holds forth the proposition that it is entirely
possible to pick up a turd by the clean end!'

“A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.” Sigmund Freud
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-28-09, 01:36 AM
Captain America's Avatar
Reed and Malloy were my FTOs
 
Supporting Member Lvl 1
Verified LEO
Site Moderator
Join Date: 05-01-08
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 6,978
Rep Power: 4814093
Quote:
Originally Posted by maclean View Post
I suggest if the UN wants to try an American citizen, we say....

"Come and get them."
Yep. And kick them the fuck out of this country and cut off the cash flow. See how long the UN lasts without US dollars. Does the UN care to prosecute a terrorist or two responsible for starting a war with this country by killing thousands of noncombatants?
__________________
"It's a great life. You risk your skin catching killers and the juries turn them loose so they can come back and shoot at you again. If your honest , your poor your whole life. And , In the end , you wind up dying all alone on some dirty street. For what? For nothing. For a tin star."
-Ex-Sheriff Martin Howe to Will Kane in "High Noon"

Far from being a handicap to command, compassion is the measure of it. For unless one values the lives of his soldiers and is tormented by their ordeals , he is unfit to command.
-General Omar Bradley, United States Army

Click the image to open in full size.
Renniger-Richards-Griswold-Owens
Reply With Quote
Reply Post New Thread

Bookmarks

Tags
crimes, evidence, official, prosecute, rumsfeld, war


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




Forum Right Top
Forum Left Bottom Forum Right Bottom