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    Quote Originally Posted by Jks9199 View Post
    ... and a bunch of FBI agents are working OT setting it up.
    The press conference.

    I know nothing about this other than the breathless tripe aired by the media. I'm going to say however the initial reaction and conclusion was probably the correct one. In the media vacuum and without the Al Sharpton race baiting and prior to Mike Tyson's studious analysis; I'm gonna guess they did the right thing without hidden motives. Reversing the investigative conclusion for the sake of politics serves nobody but politicians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lewisipso View Post
    Not going to grand jury was a mistake. I too think this dimwit started this. My question is which party took it to far? I'll say it. Had George Zimmerman or George Jetson been following me in such a manner as to cause me concern and attack me I would pound the piss out of them. Pull a pistol and I would have shoved it up their ass sideways and pulled the trigger myself.
    On the flip side had I been attacked after I had I withdrawn in good faith defense is the front line issue.
    I anxiously await to see if this trial will validate this incident in any way.
    I agree 100%

    If Zimmerman started the incident and fight he should not be justified in shooting someone just because he was losing something he started.

    I see the media brought up Treyvon's marijuana issue. I would rather deal with a pot head than a meth head or drunk any day of the week. Pot makes them lazy and hungry, not violent and UN-predictable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abom334 View Post
    If Zimmerman started the incident and fight he should not be justified in shooting someone just because he was losing something he started.
    That's nuts.

    Sort of like saying "she wouldn't have been raped if she hadn't dressed like that" or "that guy wouldn't have been robbed if he had stayed in his own part of town."

    Following someone is not an assault and not a crime. He was on the phone to 911, just like every other 911 DUI broadcast or suspicious person broadcast you've ever heard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacLean View Post
    That's nuts.

    Sort of like saying "she wouldn't have been raped if she hadn't dressed like that" or "that guy wouldn't have been robbed if he had stayed in his own part of town."

    Following someone is not an assault and not a crime. He was on the phone to 911, just like every other 911 DUI broadcast or suspicious person broadcast you've ever heard.


    It's nothing like saying those things. following someone is not a crime, but from what I understand, Zimmerman tried detaining treyvon because he looked suspicious. I don't know about Florida's laws but in my state, unwanted physical contact is a crime. if Zimmerman did try and unlawfully detain Treyvon and was getting his ass kicked because of it, your saying he was justified in shooting him? I call bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abom334 View Post
    It's nothing like saying those things. following someone is not a crime, but from what I understand, Zimmerman tried detaining treyvon because he looked suspicious. I don't know about Florida's laws but in my state, unwanted physical contact is a crime. if Zimmerman did try and unlawfully detain Treyvon and was getting his ass kicked because of it, your saying he was justified in shooting him? I call bullshit.
    Depends on how badly he was getting his ass kicked. If Trayvon just knocked him on his ass and left it at that, the shooting is obviously bad. If Trayvon continued the beating after that, then maybe the shooting was ok (even if lesser charges for starting the whole mess would be appropriate).

    Even if we look at this whole thing in the light least favorable to Zimmerman, first degree murder is a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abom334 View Post
    It's nothing like saying those things. following someone is not a crime, but from what I understand, Zimmerman tried detaining treyvon because he looked suspicious. I don't know about Florida's laws but in my state, unwanted physical contact is a crime. if Zimmerman did try and unlawfully detain Treyvon and was getting his ass kicked because of it, your saying he was justified in shooting him? I call bullshit.

    I don't remember everything I've read and heard, but I surely don't remember hearing that Zimmerman attempted to "detain", only follow and report.

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    I'm looking at this, and see 2 things.

    1. File Charges (2nd Degree murder) and arrest Zimmerman makes the family and race pimps happy. make them feel they're getting some "justice"

    2. File Charges (2nd Degree murder) knowing the prosecutors have a weak case against Zimmerman (my opinion based on what little evidence I've been presented) and since he was given only a $150,000 bond for 2nd degree murder, I think the case may be pretty weak.

    Plus, if he is found not guilty, then he cannot stand trial for 2nd degree murder again.
    Keep in mind, I havent kept up with any of the details since probably 3 weeks after this incident happened, so I don't know of any "smoking gun" the prosecution may have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pudge View Post
    I don't remember everything I've read and heard, but I surely don't remember hearing that Zimmerman attempted to "detain", only follow and report.
    It's what I read on one of the thousands of articles online. Since this post, I have read so many different takes on this case it is disgusting. This whole thing is the definition of cluster *&#^!
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