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12-28-07, 05:44 AM #1
New law in New Jersey bans sex offenders from using the internet. Is this constitutional?
EWING, N.J. - Convicted sex offenders who used the Internet to help them commit their crimes will be banned from using the Internet under a measure signed into law Thursday.
The bill applies to people who, for example, lured a potential victim through e-mail or other electronic messages. It also affects paroled sex offenders under lifetime supervision, but exempts computer work done as part of a job or search for employment.
"We live in scary times," said Acting Gov. Richard J. Codey, who signed the bill because Gov. Jon S. Corzine is vacationing in the Caribbean.
Under the law, sex offenders will have to let the state Parole Board know about their access to computers. Those caught using the Internet would face 18 months in jail and a $10,000 fine.
Convicted sex offenders will have to submit to periodic, unannounced examinations of their computer equipment and install equipment on their computers so their use can be monitored.
Parole officers can also order polygraph tests for convicts suspected of violating the Internet ban, said Parole Board Chairman Peter Barnes.
The Parole Board currently supervises about 4,200 paroled sex offenders whose sentencing guidelines call for lifetime supervision — regardless of whether their offenses involved the Internet.
The board last month approved new rules banning those convicts from using Internet social networking sites such as Facebook and MySpace.
The Parole Board imposed the new restrictions after state officials discovered, after subpoenaing several sites, hundreds of profiles registered to convicted sex offenders.
No federal law restricts sex offenders' Internet use. Florida and Nevada are the only other states to impose such restrictions.
Assemblywoman Linda Greenstein, D-Mercer, said the new law provides a needed update to Megan's Law, which requires sex offenders to register with the state after being released from prison.
"When Megan's Law was enacted, few could envision a day when a sex offender hiding behind a fake screen name would be a mouse-click away from new and unwitting victims," she said.
My question is, is this new law constitutional? Do you agree with this law? Do you agree with the punishment for violating it? Discuss.
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12-28-07, 07:56 AM #2
Keep the fuckers locked up and you don't have to worry about it.
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12-28-07, 08:24 AM #3No one has greater love than this, to lay down ones life for ones friends - John 15:13
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12-28-07, 10:57 AM #4
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I agree... they lured their victims through the internet... they should not be able to do it again...
Convicted sex offenders who used the Internet to help them commit their crimes will be banned from using the Internet under a measure signed into law Thursday.
The bill applies to people who, for example, lured a potential victim through e-mail or other electronic messages.
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12-28-07, 11:29 AM #5
Where is there a constitutional right to the internet?
Meanwhile, fishing in Russia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkzV5AIK8iM
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12-28-07, 11:32 AM #6
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12-28-07, 11:35 AM #7
the internet is their tool of the crime, so take it from them.
It would/could be difficult to enforce, but make it part of the punitive measures against them.
To be a good Law Enforcement Officer you MUST know the law!
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12-28-07, 11:39 AM #8
Coming form liberal NJ this suprises me.
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12-28-07, 12:04 PM #9
Other than that which is the best way to stop them,
I initially thought, no let them use it.
Then I realized that IF they used the internet to commit their crimes and to make substantial steps to committing them then YES they should be banned from the internet.
WHY you ask?
Its a tool like any other criminal.
A burglar that has pry bars, lock picking set, screwdrivers can be charged with Possession of Instruments of a Crime in PA {PIC for short}
The tools have legitimate uses BUT not for this person. He has no legitimate use for it and has been caught with them in the past.
If I stop a kid at night wearing all black and he is in an apartment complex lot looking at cars, I might not be able to charge him with theft from vehicle but I can charge him with PIC.
No legitimate use for them toola at that time, location etc.
Fuck the sex offenders, take away their internet if they have been chargeed in the past with using it.
Cut their nuts off tooA monday morning lunatic, disturbed from time to time. Temporary catatonic madman on occasion..
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12-28-07, 02:38 PM #10
We will see if it is constitutonal when it is taken to the surpreme court.
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12-28-07, 03:52 PM #11
good fucking luck trying to make sure these pederasses aren't on the interweb...but I think it's a well-intentioned law. You troll for victims on myspace and the like, you lose the ability to use the interweb...in my state, if you're convicted of burglary, it's illegal for you to possess implements of burglary (i.e. tools) except in certai situations. This feels like the same type of deal.
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12-28-07, 07:10 PM #12
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12-28-07, 07:48 PM #13Wait a minute... don't you understand? This is what liberals do, and they are very good at it. Substitute punishment options are the keys to watering down the criminal justice system and keeping everything 'warmer and fuzzier'. The more people who owe me (their government) for not only making them safer, but also serving as their nanny and provider, the more votes I can garner in the next election.Coming form liberal NJ this suprises me.
Its not going to be so bad after all, instead of promoting stiffer sentences and truth in sentencing for internet sexual predators, we simply won't let them use the web anymore! No web, no problems right? No need for lengthy incarceration, because we will take away the tools that they use to enact their deviance. The internet is the demon, not the person using it!! Of course, they will all be on the strictest probation terms, too, just so we make sure that we monitor them very, very closely!
Criminals are barred from having guns, aren't they? And you don't see them running around unrehabilitated, continuing to be violent predators, do you? Well, do you?
Should I really have to spell it out for all of you? Don't we get "it" yet? C'mon people, welcome to liberal America!
"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."
- Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America
Tell me not, Sweet, I am unkind,
That from the nunnery
Of thy chaste breast and quiet mind
To war and arms I fly. - Lovelace
The opinions expressed by this poster are wholly his own, and should never be construed to even remotely be in representation of his employer, its agencies or assigns. In fact, they probably fail to be in alignment with the opinions of any rational human being.
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12-28-07, 07:53 PM #14
Meanwhile, fishing in Russia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkzV5AIK8iM
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." -- Frederic Bastiat
"Certainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never really care for anything else thereafter." Ernest Hemingway
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12-28-07, 09:57 PM #15
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12-28-07, 10:45 PM #16
I'm sure John Hancock and the boys put a clause in the constitution to cover their right to continue to use the internet. Or maybe Al Gore as the inventor of the internet snuck in a clause when we weren't looking.
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12-29-07, 12:35 AM #17
OKay, so what would the difference be then
you are a convicted felon, no right to vote
you are a convicted felon, no right to bear arms
you are a sick freak sexually messing with people, you should have no genitalia or right to anything other than a jail cell!
I say take their genitals and lock them up, and make sure they dont have internet in jail either!
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12-29-07, 12:42 AM #18
We keep the sex offenders off the internet right now, that is part of there terms of Probation, and I think it should stay like that!
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12-29-07, 01:15 AM #19
They make locking cages that work in tandem with piercings that would prevent them from being able to do ANYTHING with it. I vote for those things, as well as breaking all the bones in their hands.
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12-29-07, 02:16 AM #20
There was non of al gores interweb when the constitution was written. You dont have the right to be on the net at all if you are a sex offender. I can go on and on about rights that people think they have that is actually a privilege that is given to them.

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