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11-13-07, 09:43 AM #1
Police shoot, kill man holding hairbrush, witnesses say
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/11/13/ny.shooting/index.html
Police shot and killed an unarmed young man outside his Brooklyn apartment Monday night after his mother reported a "family dispute with a gun," police and witnesses said.
Officers in New York early Tuesday guard the scene of a police shooting that left a teen dead.
New York police responded to a 911 call from the mother of the 18-year-old man believed to be armed, according to a police statement.
Police told The Associated Press that the teen refused to halt as he approached officers, prompting them to open fire.
Police told The New York Times they believed the teen, Khiel Coppin, had a gun, but after five officers fired 20 shots they realized he was holding only a hairbrush.
"The boy didn't have no gun, he had a brush on him," said Andre Wildman, a neighbor who told CNN that he saw the shooting.
Another neighbor, Wayne Holder, said police should be required to see a weapon before opening fire on a suspect. "At least see a gun before you start to discharge it," Holder said. Police "don't even have to see it, [if] they think you got one, you're going to get shot."
The AP reported that the teen had a history of mental illness and his mother had tried to have him hospitalized earlier in the day.
A bystander who said he saw the shooting told CNN affiliate WABC-TV that the man was unarmed. "He dropped the brush," said the bystander, Dyshawn Gibson. "He put his hands up. Police just started firing."
As the teen approached officers, police ordered him to stop, police spokesman Paul Browne told AP. The teen refused and continued to approach, Browne said, prompting police to open fire.
An initial police statement given to reporters Monday night said the man was seen earlier pacing around the apartment.
"He began screaming from the window at his mother and the police," the police statement said. "At some point, the male climbed out of the window and began crossing the sidewalk toward the police."
That's when police began firing, a police spokesman said.
The police spokesman said officers were called to the apartment building in Brooklyn's Bedford-Stuyvesant neighborhood at about 7 p.m. by Coppin's mother who said she was having a dispute with her son.
According to a statement, police said Coppin's mother reported that her son was armed. But The New York Times quoted police who said Coppin himself was overheard on the mother's 911 call threatening to kill her and claiming "I have a gun."
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11-13-07, 01:24 PM #2
Don't come to a gunfight with a hairbrush.
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11-13-07, 03:01 PM #3Another neighbor, Wayne Holder, said police should be required to see a weapon before opening fire on a suspect. "At least see a gun before you start to discharge it," Holder said...
A bystander who said he saw the shooting told CNN affiliate WABC-TV that the man was unarmed. "He dropped the brush," said the bystander, Dyshawn Gibson. "He put his hands up. Police just started firing."
I'd say a good job by the Police, especially in their restraint. No stray rounds hit the critical bystanders.
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11-13-07, 03:09 PM #4
I'm glad they put this brilliant commentary in there -
Another neighbor, Wayne Holder, said police should be required to see a weapon before opening fire on a suspect. "At least see a gun before you start to discharge it," Holder said. Police "don't even have to see it, [if] they think you got one, you're going to get shot."
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