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View Poll Results: Should children be exposed to sexually frank words like scrotum/penis/anus/breasts?
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Yes, they should be told the correct term for the parts on their body
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No, it is innappropriate at that age
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02-19-07, 09:07 PM
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I voted yes. have you ever attempted interview an 11 -13 year old who does not know their body parts. It is very difficult when you ask what the perp did and they can't describe what part was touched. I have just had them point, or say down there. What the hell does that mean. When you ask the mother if the child knows the body parts and she replys no, what the hell. This type of situation has raised it's head more than once. What kind of a witness will thay child make. These old librarians need to get their heads out of the sand.
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02-19-07, 10:16 PM
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We taught our kids the correct terms, except for I tell my son its a sack, I never call it a scrotum, it looks like a sack, performs the job of a sack, so I call it a sack.
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02-19-07, 10:40 PM
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We taught our kids the correct terms, except for I tell my son its a sack, I never call it a scrotum, it looks like a sack, performs the job of a sack, so I call it a sack.
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Ok, for some reason, this struck me funny as hell.  Now I've got the mental image of you guys walking around with your testicles in paper bags.
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02-19-07, 10:52 PM
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02-19-07, 11:45 PM
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02-19-07, 11:58 PM
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The words aren't such a big deal, it's the situations that they get used in so by all means teach them the proper terminology.
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02-20-07, 12:45 PM
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Darn it - I hate the word scrotum.
I don't see a book for 9 to 12 as a "children's" book. They are pre-teens. And real words are the best.
I think I've only ever called them testicles though - never thought of them as two seperate parts.
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02-20-07, 12:48 PM
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02-20-07, 01:59 PM
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That book doesn't look like anything kids need to be reading.
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02-20-07, 02:15 PM
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I think the correct terminology for body parts can help prevent slang used to describe body parts. I think that a teen often uses slang to describe body parts out of ignorance, I know it sure makes them sound stupid
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02-20-07, 03:12 PM
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That book doesn't look like anything kids need to be reading.
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Care to expand? Why or why not?
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02-20-07, 03:35 PM
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The opening paragraphs about some guy getting drunk, as well as the snake biting the dog's scrotum, aren't appropriate for kids. If the author is going to push a book as a kids book, I expect it to be about bunnies and puppies and all that crap. Not scrotums and drinking rum.
Kids do need to learn about their bodies, as well as adult issues like drinking. But it should come from the parents, not from an adult story disguised as a children's book.
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02-20-07, 04:25 PM
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Also wanted to add.....9 to 12 year olds already KNOW those body part names........sheeesh! You would think the controversy would be geared more towards toddlers.
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Thats so true. Hell, I even knew all about sexuality and human anatomy long before I was nine.
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02-20-07, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackalope
The opening paragraphs about some guy getting drunk, as well as the snake biting the dog's scrotum, aren't appropriate for kids. If the author is going to push a book as a kids book, I expect it to be about bunnies and puppies and all that crap. Not scrotums and drinking rum.
Kids do need to learn about their bodies, as well as adult issues like drinking. But it should come from the parents, not from an adult story disguised as a children's book.
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Good grief! Yeah, I would have to say that doesn't sound good for a kid to be reading. What is the moral to the story?
Now I'm interested in reading it.
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02-21-07, 02:40 AM
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Kids do need to learn about their bodies, as well as adult issues like drinking. But it should come from the parents, not from an adult story disguised as a children's book.
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So rather than a parent reading the book with their child and discussing it, you just assume the kid is going to pick it up and read it? Yeah- that's a far more likely scenario.
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02-21-07, 03:38 AM
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If it's on a library shelf with a bunch of kids books, then yes, there's a pretty good chance that a kid would pick it up and read it on his own.
But actually, I'm more worried about a teacher or librarian reading the book to a bunch of eight year olds without their parents knowledge. It's this whole "it takes a village" bullshit that Hillary and her cronies believe. Social workers, teachers, and bureaucrats should not be raising kids (except their own). Parents should.
If a parent wants to read that to their kids, that's none of my business. But it would be way out of line for anyone other than a parent to read that to a kid.
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02-21-07, 03:27 PM
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If it's on a library shelf with a bunch of kids books, then yes, there's a pretty good chance that a kid would pick it up and read it on his own.
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There are TONS of books at libraries that make the one we're talking about look like Mickey Mouse. So, let's just burn them.
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But actually, I'm more worried about a teacher or librarian reading the book to a bunch of eight year olds without their parents knowledge.
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Heaven forbid the parent actually be there while the book is being read...
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It's this whole "it takes a village" bullshit that Hillary and her cronies believe. Social workers, teachers, and bureaucrats should not be raising kids (except their own). Parents should.
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Yeah kinda my point- but without the censorship.
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If a parent wants to read that to their kids, that's none of my business. But it would be way out of line for anyone other than a parent to read that to a kid.
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I wouldn't have a problem with it being read to my kid- I would just make sure they understand all aspects of the story as well as my beliefs. But I see where you're coming from.
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02-21-07, 03:59 PM
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I'm not advocating any kind of censorship or book burning. My problem with the book is not its specific content, it's the fact that they're pushing it as a kids book. Of course there are worse books out there, but you don't see them on the same shelf as Dr. Suess and Beverly Cleary.
I just want people to use common sense, and the author and publisher failed when they made it a kids book and not an adult book.
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But actually, I'm more worried about a teacher or librarian reading the book to a bunch of eight year olds without their parents knowledge.
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As someone who actually worked as a school/librarian volunteer, I can assure you that teachers and librarians don't read books to kids that are above their level. They may not even do "read-aloud" at all anymore.
Most school libraries (if the school is lucky enough to have one) probably don't have anything that's been published within the past 15 to 20 years - they are at the bottom of the list for funding. They also probably don't have a dedicated library time anymore. If they are lucky, they may have access before or after school.
I don't like to pass judgement without reading the book. Since my son is in the book's target age group, I will go pick up a copy and read it myself. Then I will post my
review/recommendation.
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I dont refer to my childrens body parts as the proper medical term or anything and they are 3 and 5. should i? I dont have a problem with telling them or at leat my 5 year old because she would be the only one I think would understand, just not yet Im gonna give it a couple of years unless they ask what its called then I will tell them
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