Am I wrong for thinking this?

FishTail · 04-20-06, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by ThisGlock40

Now if this happened to me when I was working I would perform a felony stop on the guy and arrest him for possession of a firearm.

He he...we'd just run away and hide

Cheech · 04-20-06, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by ThisGlock40

Without seeing the tape I'm not going to MMQB.

However, maybe he stated it was in a case?

It also depends on the totality of the circumstances. I was not there nor did I see the tape. I can't really say what the officer should have done.

Now if this happened to me when I was working I would perform a felony stop on the guy and arrest him for possession of a firearm.

Why the arrest, Its a legally registered weapon.

**Virginian** · 04-20-06, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by ThisGlock40

Now if this happened to me when I was working I would perform a felony stop on the guy and arrest him for possession of a firearm.

lol, one benefit of working in the District.

**Virginian** · 04-20-06, 04:04 PM

No guns in DC

**Retdetsgt** · 04-20-06, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by LongTail

He he...we'd just run away and hide

You musta seen Monty Python's "Holy Grail" too!

**Iron Man** · 04-20-06, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Virginian

lol, one benefit of working in the District.

Yep.

§ 22-4504. Carrying concealed weapons

a) No person shall carry within the District of Columbia either openly or concealed on or about their person, a pistol, without a license issued pursuant to District of Columbia law, or any deadly or dangerous weapon capable of being so concealed. Whoever violates this section shall be punished as provided in § 22-4515, except that:

(1) A person who violates this section by carrying a pistol, without a license issued pursuant to District of Columbia law, or any deadly or dangerous weapon,

in a place other than the person's dwelling place, place of business, or on other land possessed by the person, shall be fined not more than $5,000 or imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or both;

**Virginian** · 04-20-06, 04:15 PM

without a license issued pursuant to District of Columbia law

Is there such a thing?

**Iron Man** · 04-20-06, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by Virginian

Is there such a thing?

By law, yes.

§ 22-4506. Issue of licenses to carry pistol.

The Chief of Police of the District of Columbia may, upon the application of any person having a bona fide residence or place of business within the District of Columbia or of any person having a bona fide residence or place of business within the United States and a license to carry a pistol concealed upon his or her person issued by the lawful authorities of any State or subdivision of the United States, issue a license to such person to carry a pistol within the District of Columbia for not more than 1 year from date of issue, if it appears that the applicant has good reason to fear injury to his or her person or property or has any other proper reason for carrying a pistol and that he or she is a suitable person to be so licensed. The license shall be in duplicate, in form to be prescribed by the Mayor of the District of Columbia and shall bear the name, address, description, photograph, and signature of the licensee and the reason given for desiring a license. The original thereof shall be delivered to the licensee, and the duplicate shall be retained by the Chief of Police of the District of Columbia and preserved in his or her office for 6 years.

FishTail · 04-20-06, 04:20 PM

But you have to be a member of Congress...or Al Sharpton...

**Virginian** · 04-20-06, 04:21 PM

Man that sucks. Paperwork probably takes as long as the permit is good for too.

**Iron Man** · 04-20-06, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by LongTail

But you have to be a member of Congress...or Al Sharpton...

Congress has us if they need protection.

I have never ran into someone with a permit in DC. Other then a few Dunbar guards.

**Iron Man** · 04-20-06, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by ThisGlock40

Other then a few Dunbar guards.

I take that part back. They don't have the permits that I cited. They have something different. To be honest I don't remember what it is called but they can only carry while on the job.

I'll find out the exact name of it if you want.

**Iron Man** · 04-20-06, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by Virginian

Man that sucks. Paperwork probably takes as long as the permit is good for too.

I would not even bother. It will be denied.

**Virginian** · 04-20-06, 04:30 PM

Yeah, I avoid DC as much as possible anyhow

**Iron Man** · 04-20-06, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Virginian

Yeah, I avoid DC as much as possible anyhow

Me too!

**Vendetta** · 04-20-06, 04:56 PM

Let me just add that its easy in the academy to look at scenarios and think about how they should be done. Once your own you develop your on sense of people and situations. While many may have called for back-up you may not have that option. If I called for back-up for every vehicle with a weapon in it I come across then I would be banned from the radio.
No stop is routine but you develop ways of sensing how a subject is going to act. Im not saying you lower you guard but you handle things different.
Somethings that make me agree with the officer:
1) He was upfront about having the gun
2) He stated it was in a case (how many bad guys have there guns cased)
Now had he brought the gun into my view and it had not been in a case then I would have pulled my weapon and advised him to stop. I think the officer had control of the situation while both of you were in the car.
Thats my opinion

Cheech · 04-20-06, 05:03 PM

cool, All I want is opinions

**HudsonHawk** · 04-20-06, 05:12 PM

Was the man with a gun, Mexican? Because I heard they usually carry knives.

Cheech · 04-20-06, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by vengeance05

Was the man with a gun, Mexican? Because I heard they usually carry knives.

Yes he was . Lol. But on halo is screenname is Psuedomexx. SO I dont know if he counts

**TXCharlie** · 04-20-06, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by ThisGlock40

Yep.

§ 22-4504. Carrying concealed weapons

a) No person shall carry within the District of Columbia either openly or concealed on or about their person, a pistol, without a license issued pursuant to District of Columbia law, or any deadly or dangerous weapon capable of being so concealed. Whoever violates this section shall be punished as provided in § 22-4515, except that:

(1) A person who violates this section by carrying a pistol, without a license issued pursuant to District of Columbia law, or any deadly or dangerous weapon,

in a place other than the person's dwelling place, place of business, or on other land possessed by the person, shall be fined not more than $5,000 or imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or both;

That violates the constitution - So whoever enforces that law violates their oath to the Constitution.

This was going to the Supreme Court this year, but it was determined that the complaintant had no "legal standing" - Which means that he wasn't actually charged with posessing a gun. Maybe next time.