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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenna
    If 90-something percent of blacks are voting for Obama due largely to his race, how would you you explain why 93 percent of black voters voted for Kerry in 2004 while only 91 percent of black registered voters say they'll vote for Obama?
    I would venture to guess more than 91% of black voters will vote Obama, but even if that ISN'T the case, those 91% are a lot more people than the 93% of four years ago. Here's one for ya, Jenna. 100% of Dentists in a survey recommended the toothpaste Crest. In another survey, 80% of Dentists recommended Sensodyne. What toothpaste was recommended the most? If you said the crest, you'd be wrong....because only one Dentist was polled in that particular survey, and five Dentists were polled in the other survey. Catching on to how this works?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jenna
    And there are a lot more whites than blacks overall, so even if the percentage of whites who are racist is smaller than the percentage of blacks who are racist, there would still be a larger number of racist whites than racist blacks.
    Again, you're making an assumption without facts. You're saying that one group is more racist than another be default because they have more people. Don't you realize how stupid and potentially inaccurate that is?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jenna
    I think there are blacks and whites who vote primarily based on race, but a comparison of Kerry's percentages to Obama's percentages among both blacks and whites suggests that both racist groups are no more than a percentage points, and washed out by the margin of error.

    Inaccurate. Of course there are a percentage of all groups who will vote based on race. But that doesn't wash out the margin of error. And you can't compare Obama to Kerry. Read 121Traffic's post for more on this. I don't feel like typing it again...especially since you're not going to get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countybear View Post
    Never underestimate the power of the media to ill-inform the masses.
    Agenda driven media as usual.
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    I honestly believe voting should be restricted. There should be some sort of IQ test or other litmus attached to the registration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenna View Post
    If 90-something percent of blacks are voting for Obama due largely to his race, how would you you explain why 93 percent of black voters voted for Kerry in 2004 while only 91 percent of black registered voters say they'll vote for Obama?

    And there are a lot more whites than blacks overall, so even if the percentage of whites who are racist is smaller than the percentage of blacks who are racist, there would still be a larger number of racist whites than racist blacks.

    I think there are blacks and whites who vote primarily based on race, but a comparison of Kerry's percentages to Obama's percentages among both blacks and whites suggests that both racist groups are no more than a percentage points, and washed out by the margin of error.
    One thing I can not get past in all of your comparisons: Kerry is White, Obama is Black.

    Comparing percentages for the two is like comparing apples to oranges. The percentages are a bullshit statistic because 94% of 1,000,000 is much smaller than 50% of 8,000,000. I made those numbers up but you can hopefully see the logic. Numbers are what matters, not percentages.

    As previously stated, Obama is going to draw out a ton of deadbeat voters who have never voted before simply because of his race. These will mostly be black voters only interested because he is black, but there will be some white voters only interested in keeping a black man out of the Oval Office.
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    100% of Countybear is voting against Obama, and I wouldn't care if it were Jeremiah Wright running against him, at least I know where he stands.

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    Back to definitions:

    Group ? Herd ?

    Group-Speak and Group-Think?

    Herd-Speak and Herd-Think?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_(...es_of_the_term


    Note contrast between groups and herds. Both have leaders. Which one tends to be authoritarian / totalitarian? Which requires active or passive participation?

    Groups assign roles (and responsibility) to members at all levels, i.e. a chain of command. The group member must particpate in the group defense from predators or outsiders.

    Herds are created to control large numbers, to minimize outsider/predator impact (safety in numbers). Herd members only need to "obey" to be "safe". Thinking is not a pre-requisite for herd critters, yet the diminished passive benefits of "protection" remain.

    Participation or Obedience?

    Some words of Joseph Stalin to remember on election day:

    "It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything."

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    The only "Educated People" who would vote for Nobama are graduates from Moscow State University or the old Patrice Lumumba University (AKA Peoples Frendship University) , also in Moscow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bayern View Post
    The only "Educated People" who would vote for Nobama are graduates from Moscow State University or the old Patrice Lumumba University (AKA Peoples Frendship University) , also in Moscow.
    Don't forget the "Weather Underground Alumni Association"...

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