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Isn't there suppose to be a hyphen in that?

Just wondering because I don't have a good grasp on the rules for use of hyphens these days.
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I made sure it was hyphenated on the form
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Woman shot, killed in Yuba City home | family, city, wo - Breaking News - Appeal-Democrat

UPDATE: Y.C. woman killed by police pointed gun at officers


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2010-05-20 23:50:41
Click the image to open in full size. A 67-year-old Yuba City woman was shot and killed by officers when she pointed a shotgun at them and refused to put it down, Yuba City police said Friday.
Victoria Helen Roger-Vasselin was pronounced dead late Thursday at her home at 764 Mariner Loop in an affluent neighborhood on the city's far south side.
An autopsy Friday showed she died of "multiple gunshot wounds," said Sutter County Sheriff's Department spokeswoman Brenda Baker.
A neighbor reported hearing five or six shots.
Roger-Vasselin was the sister of the late Thomas E. Mathews, a Yuba County judge and district attorney who died in 2005.
"They shot her dead," Roger-Vasselin's distraught son, Christian Biscotti, said outside the house Friday morning.
"I think she was just startled" by late visits to her home, he said.
Before Biscotti could say more, a relative or family friend took him by the arm and led him inside, shutting the door.
Officers went to the Mariner Loop home after receiving a call at 9:04 p.m. about weapons being brandished, according to a police incident log. In a press release, police did not say exactly when the shooting happened.
Police scanner traffic indicated the shooting happened about 10:20 p.m.
A U.S. Census worker "had been confronted by residents who pointed a firearm at the worker and said they would not answer any questions and closed the door," said police spokeswoman Shawna Pavey.
When two male officers arrived, 51-year-old Lionel Craig Patterson answered the door, armed with a handgun, police said. "As officers were dealing with the male, a female approached the door with a shotgun and ignored officers' orders to release the weapon. As the female advanced on officers, she continued to point the shotgun at officers in a threatening manner and the two officers fired their service weapons, hitting the female," the police report said.
Both officers fired their guns, said Pavey, adding she didn't believe Roger-Vasselin or Patterson fired.
Both officers were uniformed and clearly identifiable as police, Pavey said.
Toxicology tests will determine if alcohol or drugs were a factor in the incident, Pavey said.
Sonny Le, regional spokesman for the U.S. Census Bureau, offered a different version of events. The female census taker knocked on the door at 7:45 p.m. about 25 minutes before sunset when workers are supposed to quit. The Roger-Vasselin home was the last one on her list before she went home, he said.
Patterson answered the door and first talked with the census taker, Le said.
"The visit was quite routine" until Roger-Vasselin approached with a gun, he said.
The census taker immediately left and called her supervisor. It was 9:04 p.m. when police were called, after news of the incident traveled up the Census Bureau's chain of command, Le said.
Le called the incident especially tragic because the census taker, like Roger-Vasselin, is a Yuba City resident.
Patterson was arrested on suspicion of assault with a weapon on a police officer and was being held without bail Friday in Sutter County Jail.
The officers have been placed on routine administrative leave while the Sutter County District Attorney's Office determines if the shooting was justified. District Attorney Carl Adams said he did not yet have all the facts.
A neighbor, Bob Dhaliwal, said he was in bed when he heard people, including one woman, shouting and yelling, followed by five or six shots. When he came outside, officers with guns drawn had the male suspect on the ground, then took him away in a patrol car, he said.
"All I saw was him being arrested. I assumed he shot somebody," Dhaliwal said.
Patterson lives at the same address. Pavey and neighbors said it wasn't clear what the relationship was between him and Roger-Vasselin.
Dhaliwal and other neighbors said they didn't know Roger-Vasselin well.
"She kept to herself," Dhaliwal said.
One neighbor, who declined to give her name, described Roger-Vasselin as "pleasant but reserved," almost reclusive.
"She was much more social when she first moved in. The economy was better then," the neighbor said.
Neighbors said they had also received nighttime visits from a female census worker.
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Old 05-23-10, 02:53 AM
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It would behoove us to think about the calls received from census workers or their supervisors.

This could have been avoided by making a phone call into the residence, maybe?
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Old 05-24-10, 07:44 AM
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Yer lucky if a Census Worker is the only thin you got to worry about. This week I had two Jehovah's Witnesses, a couple of Mormans on Bikes and some Seventh Day Advantists along with two book salesmen. Got to remember to turn on the sprinkler system next time the door bell rings..
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Old 05-26-10, 12:52 AM
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Evidently, I have had my visits by the enumerator. My wife gave me a notice left at the front door. I guess on Monday, they came around. I found another one today. Today, I was home. I guess I must have been sleeping. I usually always wake up if someone drives into my driveway and/or knocks on my door.

I'm guess the one coming around is like the tooth fairy. They must be sneaking in and leaving the notice and slinking off. I think I'd rather have the quarter the tooth fairy left rather than the Census notice.
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What many Americans don’t realize, is that census workers — from the head of the Bureau and the Secretary of Commerce (its parent agency) down to the lowliest and newest Census employee — are empowered under federal law to actually demand access to any apartment or any other type of home or room that is rented out, in order to count persons in the abode and for “the collection of statistics.” If the landlord of such apartment or other leased premises refuses to grant the government worker access to your living quarters, whether you are present or not, the landlord can be fined $500.00.
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As with most laws which are written by morons (sorry, I have little faith in those folks crafting our laws ), the one he mentions in his article seems to apply more to apartment buildings and gated communities and such. I guess you could make it out to say entry into an apartment, but the law was written in order for the census folks to gain entry inside the complex. It wasn't intended to mean entry into an apartment or home.

Of course, because many laws are written in some kind of knee-jerk response to some perceived problem, we get stupid laws that are vague enough to be abused. One day, some idiot will take the interpretation the author did and then there'll be a lawsuit.

Too bad he went there in that article. I read his work and he's usually not so far off on things.
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They have been calling for over a week. Finally got a hold of me today "to make sure this was completed..." The guy could barely put a sentence together, and had to talk to my wife, because she completed the form. What a knob. I have also heard of them showing up at kids' baseball games, and harassing parents around here. Today I e-mailed the regional office. I think that's out of line.
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