Extremism bad for business E-mail
Written by Mark Nichols   

Extremist governors like Ohio's John Kasich and Arizona's Jan Brewer are being met with resistance from unusual suspects-the very business community that these politicians portend to represent. Tea Party rage coming from an aging population and overheated political rhetoric have made legislation like Ohio Senate Bill 5 possible. Senate Bill 5 is the legislation that outlawed collective bargaining in Ohio. But just like kids who will eat candy until they puke unless under the supervision of adults, Kasich and others may have gone too far.


Not only have Kasich's approval numbers tanked badly since he was elected, he's now getting called out by the state's Chamber of Commerce, hardly a bastion of pro-labor and liberal sentiment. Much like the industry leaders from technology companies who are telling Arizona Governor Jan Brewer that her shocking cuts to education budgets make that state unattractive to firms and companies that need educated workers, Kasich is actually being warned by business leaders that his approach might be, well, bad for business.

The Ohio State Chamber of Commerce actually endorsed Kasich for governor. That was the first time the body had made such an endorsement. But the relationship between the Chamber and the governor is fracturing. This could be a bad sign for Kasich.

Observers say he needs a strong Chamber to help fight off the repeal initiative, which is expected to put SB5 in the hands of the voters this November. Unions have said they might spend as much as $20 million to strike down the law, and with no organized operation to defend the bill, opponents in Ohio expect the Chamber to pick up the cost.

In a letter sent to the Chamber by Turning Technologies' Michael Broderick, the CEO complained that the Chamber's stance on SB5 is a turn away from fighting for business and toward partisan politics that may in the end alienate customers.

"As I have stated to both of you privately prior to this decision, I believe the chamber recently took ill-advised steps which resulted in the perception that the chamber is a partisan Republican organization," Broderick wrote on March 31.

"In our strongly Democratic community, this perception clearly undermines the Chamber's all important broad support across the community."

Labor has seized on the discontent. As it gears up to take on the law in November, AFSCME has begun signing up businesses in its Proud Ohio Workers program, which calls on firms to put a sticker in their window and sign a letter signaling that they're "worker-friendly."

Most of all, the businesses represented by the Chamber want to avoid looking like they're underlings of the governor and his powerful anti-labor backers.

"The Chamber upset a lot of people when they broke with tradition and endorsed Gov. Kasich," one member told The Talking Points Memo in a recent interview.

"Their members are business people who want to make money and stay out of politics."

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Fiscal responsibility is now extremism? Give me a break.
written by John, June 04, 2011
"But just like kids who will eat candy until they puke unless under the supervision of adults" - - - So, people who want to stop this runaway spending are like undisciplined kids? I think not.

Let me tell you who is behaving like undisciplined children. It's those union thugs who keep demanding more money from taxpayers to pay for ridiculous pensions. They are the ones that keep demanding more and more candy, and one of these day's you will puke because of it. Does it make sense that public employees will be collecting their unfunded pensions for more years than they worked? You can retire after 25 years (usually around the age of 50) and generally live and collect a pension for another 30 years. With guaranteed pensions complete with cost of living raises built in, there is very little to limit the unfunded costs of those pensions when they come due. Top that with free health care for life and you can see the mess that will need to be dealt with in the next 20 to 30 years.

I imagine that the public sector unions will be able to dump a lot of money (money that comes from the dues of their rank and file - which ultimately comes from the taxpayers) into propaganda to sway public opinion, but the one thing they can't do is print money. Eventually these unfunded and ridiculous pensions will come due. When the high taxes chase business and wealthy individuals from the state (like California for example), there will come a time when those pensions will not be funded and the state won't be able to pay them. What are you going to do then? The candy store will be closed and businesses will have relocated to less oppressive states like Texas. At that time, there won't be enough money in the state to fund our pensions. We are rapidly approaching that time. In California, they are not able to even convince a majority of registered democrats to extend the tax increases there. The polls show that a majority of democrats are against it. Not to mention that republicans and independents are against the extensions by a higher percentage. This is California, a bastion of liberalism, and the silly governor there can't convince the voting public to fund the pensions. That bill will come due in short order - let's see which state weathers these storms best - those who are attempting to be fiscally responsible, like Ohio, Wisconsin, or New Jersey or states that are foolishly heading down the path of bankruptcy, like California. I'd say that within 5 year, we'll have a pretty good idea.

Our union leaders are not doing us any favors by the ridiculous demands and outrageous statements, they are strengthening their power base and influence by throwing us, the hard working peace officers, empty promises and a dead end. Throw the bums out and take on some of the responsibility for our own future. You don't become a peace officer without having a good amount of intelligence, self control, dedication and a moral compass based on right and wrong. Only an extremely small fraction who apply for our jobs actually make it through the screening, academy, and probationary period.

The day where we agree with the thugs who run our unions and demand more and more without regard to economic reality and fiscal responsibility is the day that we cease being dedicated and become nothing more than the scum that we were hired to bring to justice.

Keep supporting those who demand more and more and we'll see what happens - it won't be pretty for anyone. Me? Once I retired I moved out of the state, to a state more friendly to business and to those who have accumulated some wealth. (I managed to set up my own retirement by a pretty simple strategy - saving a high percentage of my wages at the beginning of my career - and a good amount of self control - my retirement from the department is not needed. If I was able to do this, anyone should be able to). And you know, since I behaved like an adult from the start of my career, I never puked once from eating too much candy.
written by MikeN, June 13, 2011
Instead of the workers look at what party was in charge during the fat years when the pension laws were written and who authored the bills that allowed this. Once a pension has been promised and the pensioner is collecting it would be supreme ignorance to take it away. Once the payment begins it cannot be taken. That state will just have to gut it out and pay.

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